polymer storage & search

User 6c4fe52dc0

23-04-2013 21:58:02

Hi, 


I have a few hundreds of polymers stored in relational database and would like to use chemAxon to index and search them. I would like to know how to do this. Particularly, I have the following questions. 


1. A polymer can have multiple valid names, for example, source-based name, structure-based name and other types of names. Can chemAxon normalize polymer names? For instance, the following 5 variations of one polymer. 


poly(but-1-ene), poly(1-ethylethylene), poly(1-butene), polybutene, polybutylene. 


Can chemAxon recognize them as one polymer?


 


2. Besides the polymer names, what other information is needed for chemAxon to search polymers? Do you need to know the repeat unit, or monomers, or the malecular weights of the polymer?


3. What is the table scheme that is required by ChemAxon to search polymers?


4. I couldn't find the document of using the Polymer Search capability in  ChemAxon website. Can someone point me to the right place?


Thanks!

ChemAxon abe887c64e

24-04-2013 07:35:13

Hi,


Thank you for the questions.


You may find information about polymer search features and the usage of search options in JChem here:


http://www.chemaxon.com/jchem/doc/user/query_polymer.html


http://www.chemaxon.com/jchem/doc/user/query_polymer_searchoptions.html


Our default table type "Molecule" can handle polymer structures.


In general, the determination of whether two compounds are duplicates of each other or not, happens on the basis of the chemical structure and not on the basis of  the name, but we forward your questions concerning names of polymers to our naming expert collegues.


Best regards,


Krisztina

ChemAxon e7b9408ca1

24-04-2013 07:46:53

Dear Su,


Unfortunately at this point there is no systematic support for importing or generating polymer names.


Best regards,


Daniel

User 6c4fe52dc0

24-04-2013 15:20:58

Thanks for the information!


Hi Daniel, ithere is no systematic support for importing or generating polymer names, how does ChemAxon index polymers and make them searchable?  

ChemAxon 42004978e8

25-04-2013 14:41:50

Hi,


The database handling is independent from name generation or name import, if the input source is not the polymer name, but the structure in some of the supported formats (mrv, mol, sdf…).


The database structure stores the standardized structure in cxsmiles or cxsmarts, see http://www.chemaxon.com/jchem/doc/dev/dbconcepts/index.html#tablestructure


Regards,


Robert

User 6c4fe52dc0

30-04-2013 17:29:54

Hi Robert,


thanks for the clarification. If so, is there a ChemAxon tool that takes a polymer name as input and structures in various supported formats as output? The current ChemAxon N2S only converts small molecules to structures, right? Is it able to perform polymer N2S? 


For certain polymer names like poly(1,1-dichloro-2-fluoroethylene), I probably can remove the "poly" part and pass the rest to ChemAxon N2S to get structure. But I don't know how to handle more complicated polymer names like the followings:


1,2,3-tris{poly[oxy(1-methyl-2-oxoethylene)]-oxy}propane


poly{poly[poly(oxyethyleneoxyterephthaloyl)oxyethyleneoxycarbonyliminobutane-1,4-diyliminocarbonyl]-poly[poly(oxyethyleneoxysuccinyl)oxyethyleneoxycarbonyliminobutane-1,4-diyliminocarbonyl]}


Any suggestion?


Thanks.


 

ChemAxon e7b9408ca1

01-05-2013 09:44:13

Dear Su,


Indeed and unfortunately, there is no polymer N2S at the moment. It could be supported in the future but it is not scheduled yet.


Best,


Daniel