Lower than lowest energy conformers

User 73febbef3a

22-08-2011 18:52:21

For many of the molecules we are exploring, if we generate a set of conformers, we often find that one or more of the conformers have lower energies than the energy of the single conformer obtained when we select the "Calculate lowest energy conformer" option.


This issue was posted last week but still hasn't been answered so I thought an example might help. For the attached molecule, calculating the lowest energy conformer using all default options yields a structure with reported energy 27.28 kcal/mol. If we instead generate 10 conformers, again using all default options, one of the conformers has an energy of 26.7 kcal/mol. Changing the optimization limit option to "Very strict" and selecting the "Hyperfine" option does not solve the problem; in this case, the lowest energy conformer is reported as 25.96 kcal/mol, while if we generate 10 conformers three of them have energies lower than this. For larger, more complex, molecules these differences are often much larger.


Why isn't the lowest energy conformer the lowest energy conformer?

Using MarvinSketch 5.5.1.0

ChemAxon 8b644e6bf4

30-08-2011 02:43:36

Thanks for the specific example. A bug revealed in "generate lowest energy conformer" option handling: its intended function was to generate a predefined number of conformers and pick the one with the lowest energy. It currently generates only one conformer, so the result is equivalent with a the result of single 3D coordinate generation.


As a workaround generating multiple conformers and manually selecting the first (since the results window orders conformers by calculated energy) can be used.


In the next days a brief introduction on using conformer generation will be linked here.


 


Regards,


Gabor

ChemAxon 8b644e6bf4

08-09-2011 16:09:28

A brief introduction to Generate3D (usage and inner workings) can be found at https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1dgaNFWpBNqexlTRMmWF48II9qkL9e8ALdyFpoIlJfUY


A tracker topic where notifications on the major modification of this document can be found https://www.chemaxon.com/forum/ftopic8016.html


This bug about handling "lowest energy conformer" option will not be fixed in the next two (5.6 and 5.7) major releases. When this bug is fixed a notification will be posted here.


Regards,


Gabor