electrolyte concentration range

User 9f0bfd8480

23-05-2016 21:07:11

Hello,


 


Thank you for reading this one first.


In the program, range for electrolyte conc. for log D is 0.1-0.25M. Why is it limited to this range? Reference mentioned the range as 0.01-0.25M in Csizmadia's paper.


 


Thanks! 

ChemAxon d51151248d

26-05-2016 15:00:26

Hi, 


The lower concentration limit is actually 0.0, and the developers of the logD model had to choose 0.25 as an upper limit for the ionic strength, because that was the value they had corrections for. Back then our model was the first that took such corrections into account. 


What limits would you need for your calculations?


Thanks, 


Daniel

User 9f0bfd8480

30-05-2016 05:15:23

Thank you for your reply.


 


Actually, i want low concentration. I need a reference to support the concentration of my solution that is because manual recommended me to select conc of electrolyte within 0.1-0.25 M and 'reference paper' of the manual ranged 0.01-0.25 M. I don't know why they have different range. Also, according to my runs, lower concentration had some error than higher conc. of electrolyte..


 


If you have any other reason or reference of it (0.1-0.25 or 0.01-0.25), please let me know. Thanks again! 

ChemAxon d51151248d

06-06-2016 09:30:46

Hi, 


I can't send you any specific reference, but here are some useful info you can use for further research:


LogD is usually measured in series of standard buffer solutions of given pH with specific ionic strength, which is usually between 0.1-0.25. That is why we selected those concentration ranges. Lower concentrations are usually selected to minimize the interaction between organic molecules and inorganic ions that can alter the logD value.


I suggest you should look up some reference material on the measuring of logD in practice.


 


Daniel

User 9f0bfd8480

07-06-2016 18:33:03

Thank you Daniel. 


 


The reference i mentioned above is the one referred in the manual of chemaxon logP and log D plugin. I want to use 0.05 M, and reference and program represent the different range of electrolyte so i was confused.


 


Thanks again for the replies and i will do research more.


 

ChemAxon d51151248d

08-06-2016 08:39:25

Hi, 


You can set the ionic strength in the logP/D plugin to 0.05 ! As a reference please make some research in the practical literature.


And if you find bad results @ lower concentrations, send us a bug report with molecules and data attached. 


Daniel