Question about V3000 mol

User 7c5047cd7b

05-10-2005 08:54:19

I saved one structure to a V2000 mol file and a V3000 mol file.


And converted them by standardizer.





I found the results were different.


Both of the two mol files could be opened in ISIS/Draw


and display a same structure





Do you know why I get the different results?





I pasted the two mol file and config file.


My standardizer is 3.1





Thanks

ChemAxon d76e6e95eb

05-10-2005 16:02:09

The input compounds in the V2000.mol and V3000.mol files are different. This can lead to different results.

User 7c5047cd7b

06-10-2005 01:06:38

Hello Gyuri





Thank you for your reply.





(1)The two mol files displayed the same structure in ISIS/Draw.


(2)There is no +1 charge at N in the v3000.mol.


The following is Atom block of V3000.mol


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M V30 1 N 0.810933 -2.21277 0 0 CFG=3


M V30 2 C 2.21093 -2.53007 0 0 CFG=3


M V30 3 C 0.686733 -0.798966 0 0 CFG=3


M V30 4 O -0.271867 -3.14387 0 0


M V30 5 C 2.93503 -1.31967 0 0 CFG=3


M V30 6 C 1.74193 -3.89557 0 0


M V30 7 C 3.49713 -3.14387 0 0


M V30 8 C 2.00403 -0.230067 0 0


M V30 9 C -0.730467 -1.06797 0 0


M V30 10 C 0.269533 0.587233 0 0


M V30 11 C 4.37303 -1.18867 0 0


M V30 12 O 5.19363 -2.35077 0 0


M V30 13 O 4.97993 0.107934 0 0


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Don't you think it a problem of Marvin?





Thanks

ChemAxon d76e6e95eb

06-10-2005 19:51:31

You might be right. Thank you for the report, we are investigating the problem and will get back soon.

ChemAxon d76e6e95eb

12-10-2005 14:48:21

The molecule has an invalid valence. In this case, some chemical drawing programs automatically display a positive charge on that nitrogen, others do not.


You are right, Marvin is currently not consistent, because no charge is displayed for the molecule coming from the V2000 format, but a charge is displayed in case of V3000 format.





The source of the problem is, that the V2000 file always contain charge explicitly for all atoms (a 0 at least), but the charge is often not specified in V3000.





We will modify the V3000 import to consider non specified charge as 0.