Jchem bases: the problem of standardier molecular structure

User 73a1fcfaf4

30-08-2014 12:32:58

Dear engineer,

   (1) Which action can I choose to build my configuration as shown at the step 2 "configure actions"?(aromatize,clean2D,or...)

   (2) How can I operate to import a configuration at the second step ?

   When press the button of "import", I need to input a standardizer configuration file. But it is terrible that I can`t find the .xml file in my computer then how can I do to solve this problem?

   (3) How can I set the chosen actions` parameters? For example, which scheme options can I choose for the action of "Transform Nitro" ?

   It is my honor to get your reply.

                                                                               Sincerely,Xiaoya Song.

User 73a1fcfaf4

30-08-2014 13:32:08

If I input ( .cdx) file, for example ethanol's .cdx file, How can I operate at the second step in Standardizer software to get the .sdf output file.

ChemAxon abe887c64e

01-09-2014 11:28:50

Hi Xiaoya,


Your questions are answered here.


Best regards



Krisztina

User 73a1fcfaf4

09-09-2014 08:43:20










kvajda wrote:

Hi Xiaoya,


Your questions are answered here.


Best regards



Krisztina



Dear professor Krisztina,


   Thank you for your guidance. That's very nice of you.


   I have studied the website that you give , however still don't know which configure action is need to standaradizer molecular structure as the following format:


   Could you help me?


   Best wishes to you.


                                                                                                           Sincerely, Xiaoya Song.

ChemAxon e08c317633

10-09-2014 07:06:44

I guess you want to add explicit hydrogens to the molecule (with the Add Explicit Hydrogens action), and use SDF output format.

User 73a1fcfaf4

10-09-2014 13:08:58










Zsolt wrote:

I guess you want to add explicit hydrogens to the molecule (with the Add Explicit Hydrogens action), and use SDF output format.



Dear professor Zsolt,


     When I chose the Add Explicit Hydrogens action, the SDF output format see figure1. 


    When I chose the "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action +"Map"action+"Clean 2D"action , the SDF output format see figure 2. It is the same result with [ "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action+"Clean 2D"action ]


 


    However, these (figure1/figure2) aren't the result that I want to get.


   So, I want to know how to change my configuration to get the result of the "structural information" figure.



User 73a1fcfaf4

10-09-2014 13:09:34










missducksong wrote:










Zsolt wrote:

I guess you want to add explicit hydrogens to the molecule (with the Add Explicit Hydrogens action), and use SDF output format.



Dear professor Zsolt,


     When I chose the Add Explicit Hydrogens action, the SDF output format see figure1. 


    When I chose the "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action +"Map"action+"Clean 2D"action , the SDF output format see figure 2. It is the same result with [ "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action+"Clean 2D"action ]


 


    However, these (figure1/figure2) aren't the result that I want to get.


   So, I want to know how to change my configuration to get the result of the "structural information" figure.




User 73a1fcfaf4

10-09-2014 13:10:10










missducksong wrote:










missducksong wrote:










Zsolt wrote:

I guess you want to add explicit hydrogens to the molecule (with the Add Explicit Hydrogens action), and use SDF output format.



Dear professor Zsolt,


     When I chose the Add Explicit Hydrogens action, the SDF output format see figure1. 


    When I chose the "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action +"Map"action+"Clean 2D"action , the SDF output format see figure 2. It is the same result with [ "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action+"Clean 2D"action ]


 


    However, these (figure1/figure2) aren't the result that I want to get.


   So, I want to know how to change my configuration to get the result of the "structural information" figure.





ChemAxon e08c317633

12-09-2014 09:07:14

Please explain in plain English what do you want to do with your chemical structure (in this case it is ethanol, so the possibilities are quite limited).

User 73a1fcfaf4

12-09-2014 15:40:13










Zsolt wrote:

Please explain in plain English what do you want to do with your chemical structure (in this case it is ethanol, so the possibilities are quite limited).



Dear Professer,


   I want to calculate fragments simplex descriptors values with my chemical structure, as shown in Figure1.

ChemAxon e08c317633

16-09-2014 13:24:24

So your workflow is:


input molecule  --(Standardizer)-->  standardized molecule  --(descriptor calculator)-->  descriptors


Your descriptor calculator expects the molecules to be in a certain state (e.g. 2D/3D coordinates, explicit hydrogens, aromatized) and format (e.g. SDF). Let us know the expected state and format and we can help.

User 73a1fcfaf4

17-09-2014 08:37:11










Zsolt wrote:

So your workflow is:


input molecule  --(Standardizer)-->  standardized molecule  --(descriptor calculator)-->  descriptors


Your descriptor calculator expects the molecules to be in a certain state (e.g. 2D/3D coordinates, explicit hydrogens, aromatized) and format (e.g. SDF). Let us know the expected state and format and we can help.



Dear professor,


   Thank you for your help. It is my honor to get your guidance.


   My workflow is just as you say, input molecule --(Standardizer)--> standardized molecule --(descriptor calculator)-->  descriptors. And I indeed need the molecules to be in a certain state. 


  In terms of the molecule structure, my expected state and format is like the examples as shown in figures.That is, I want to get ethanol/n-butanol/i-propanol/acetone/butanone-2/cyclopentanone's style as shown in Figure 1/2/3/4/5/6 respectively at the same time.


Figure1



Figure2



Figure3



Figure4



Figure5



Figure6



Your help is highly appreciated, and I look forward to hearing from you.

User 73a1fcfaf4

23-09-2014 06:51:17










Zsolt wrote:

So your workflow is:


input molecule  --(Standardizer)-->  standardized molecule  --(descriptor calculator)-->  descriptors


Your descriptor calculator expects the molecules to be in a certain state (e.g. 2D/3D coordinates, explicit hydrogens, aromatized) and format (e.g. SDF). Let us know the expected state and format and we can help.



Dear professor,


     How can I solve the above problems?


    Hope your solutions and help.

ChemAxon e08c317633

26-09-2014 10:45:45

The information you provided is not enough to suggest a proper solution. I can see on SDfile screenshots (these are text files, why don't you attach them?) that the molecules contain explicit hydrogens, and they have 2D coordinates. Based on that I can recommend this standardizer configuration:


Add Explicit Hydrogens
Clean 2D

User 73a1fcfaf4

08-10-2014 15:11:18










Zsolt wrote:

The information you provided is not enough to suggest a proper solution. I can see on SDfile screenshots (these are text files, why don't you attach them?) that the molecules contain explicit hydrogens, and they have 2D coordinates. Based on that I can recommend this standardizer configuration:


Add Explicit Hydrogens
Clean 2D



Dear engineers,


        I am very interested in molecular structure standardizer. I think it is important and  meaningful. Recently, I reinstall my work computer (win7 32bit) at the same time to reinstall this calculation software. 


       However, when I use ethanol's .cdx file as input file (C2H6O.cdx) and select “Add Explicit HydrogensClean 2D” as this standardizer configuration, both the standardizer structures and the SDF output file are 0 as shown in Figure 1.


      No matter how can I adjust the configuration [for example, chose the "Add Explicit Hydrogens "action +"Alias to Atom" action+ "Alias to Group" action+"Dearomatize" action +"Map"action+"Clean 2D"action], the output file is always empty. What's going wrong?


      Your help is highly appreciated, and I look forward to hearing from you!


      Best regards.


   


   

ChemAxon e08c317633

09-10-2014 07:37:11

Please attach the input file (C2H6O.cdx).

User 73a1fcfaf4

10-10-2014 07:00:50










Zsolt wrote:

Please attach the input file (C2H6O.cdx).


User 73a1fcfaf4

21-10-2014 05:17:14










missducksong wrote:










Zsolt wrote:

The information you provided is not enough to suggest a proper solution. I can see on SDfile screenshots (these are text files, why don't you attach them?) that the molecules contain explicit hydrogens, and they have 2D coordinates. Based on that I can recommend this standardizer configuration:


Add Explicit Hydrogens
Clean 2D



Dear engineer,


        Recently I have solved the question of output file empty.


      At the same time, I have used the method that you give ("Add Explicit Hydrogens"+"Clean 2D") to standardizer the structure of ethanol. Unfortunately, the result is not the value of my except, as shown in figure1. While my except the ethanol's value as shown in figure2.


       Dear engineer, How can I do to make a apposite  configure to  calculate my except result like figure 2 ?


      Thank you for your help, it is significant to me.


      Best regards.


                                                                                           Sincerely, Xiaoya song.


   


   


ChemAxon e08c317633

29-10-2014 16:01:50

We discovered a bug: standardizer generated 3D coordinates for the molecule in C2H6O.cdx file with configuration "Add Explicit Hydrogens"+"Clean 2D". We have fixed the bug, the fixed version will be available next week.


Output with the fixed version:


  Mrv0541 10291417012D          

9 8 0 0 0 0 999 V2000
1.7495 -1.9335 0.0000 C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1.3370 -1.2190 0.0000 C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0.5120 -1.2190 0.0000 O 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1.0350 -2.3460 0.0000 H 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2.1620 -2.6480 0.0000 H 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2.4640 -1.5210 0.0000 H 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2.0263 -0.7657 0.0000 H 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1.3850 -0.3954 0.0000 H 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0.0995 -0.5046 0.0000 H 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 2 1 0 0 0 0
2 3 1 0 0 0 0
1 4 1 0 0 0 0
1 5 1 0 0 0 0
1 6 1 0 0 0 0
2 7 1 0 0 0 0
2 8 1 0 0 0 0
3 9 1 0 0 0 0
M END
$$$$

Is this what you expect?

User 73a1fcfaf4

25-12-2014 05:34:33

Dear engineer,


         Thank you for your help. It can correctly calculate now.


         Best wish to you !


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