stereogenic allenes

User 870ab5b546

04-03-2009 23:30:01

From what I can tell, JChem cannot distinguish allenes with different configurations.  Is that correct?  For example, 2,3-pentadiene can exist in two enantiomeric forms, and 3,4-hexadien-2-ol has four isomers (two pairs of diastereomers).

ChemAxon a3d59b832c

05-03-2009 10:24:54

Yes, that is correct. Allene stereochemistry is not supported at the moment. Neither the tetrahedral-like one you mention (for even number of consecutive double bonds), nor the cis-trans type of  stereochemistry (for odd number of double bonds). E.g. hexa-2,3,4-triene.





Do you want to use it in the context of searching?








Best regards,








Szabolcs

User 870ab5b546

05-03-2009 13:50:33

We want it in the context of matching two molecules (MolSearch), but we don't need it for database searching.





I also find that minimizing the structure of an allene with Clean3D doesn't work properly (even with the latest version, Marvin 5.1.5).  Minimization of 2,3-pentadiene puts the C-CH3 bonds coplanar.  

ChemAxon a3d59b832c

09-03-2009 08:04:07

Hi Bob,





We will discuss what is needed to support this, and will get back here with a time estimation.








Regarding 3D clean, it seems to me that Marvin 5.1.5 generates non-coplanar coordinates, see attached image.











Best regards,








Szabolcs